The Oldest Lie: A Conversation with Dara Horn FULL EPISODE (Ep. 496)
Sam Harris speaks with Dara Horn about antisemitism, Jewish identity, and the failure of institutions.
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The Oldest Lie: A Conversation with Dara Horn FULL EPISODE (Ep. 496)
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Sam Harris speaks with Dara Horn about antisemitism, Jewish identity, and the failure of institutions. They discuss Horn’s new book, why Jews predate the categories of religion and nationality, antisemitism as a lie rather than an ordinary form of bigotry, why DEI failed Jewish students, the history of anti-Zionism, whether the word “Zionism” is still useful, Horn’s time on Harvard’s antisemitism advisory group, Nazi influence in the Arab world, and other topics.
Dara Horn
is the author of eight books, including
The Final Solution to the Jewish Question
,
People Love Dead Jews
, and the novels
The World to Come
and
Eternal Life
.
She is the recipient of three National Jewish Book Awards, and her work has appeared in
The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic,
and many other publications. She received her doctorate in Hebrew and Yiddish literature from Harvard University, and has taught Jewish literature at Sarah Lawrence, Yeshiva University, and Harvard. She lives with her family in New Jersey.
Website:
https://www.darahorn.com
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Join neuroscientist, philosopher, and five-time New York Times best-selling author Sam Harris as he explores important and controversial questions about the mind, society, current events, moral philosophy, religion, and rationality—with an overarching focus on how a growing understanding of ourselves and the world is changing our sense of how we should live.
Sam is also the creator of the Waking Up app. Combining Sam’s decades of mindfulness practice, profound wisdom from varied philosophical and contemplative traditions, and a commitment to a secular, scientific worldview, Waking Up is a resource for anyone interested in living a more examined, fulfilling life—and a new operating system for the mind.
Waking Up offers free subscriptions to anyone who can’t afford one, and donates a minimum of 10% of profits to the most effective charities around the world. To learn more, please go to WakingUp.com.
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